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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:23 pm

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XxIAllenIxX wrote:
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we could get out of the crisis if we wanted too

we could demand our money from germany for what they did 1940
we have resources of gas that amerika doesnt let us use

the crisis is fixes to make us sell greece part by part ...


the thing is we need someone with balls to lead us..

What troubles me is that there is NO solution to this Greek debt.

The debt is too high, Greece cannot cut away sufficient costs in terms of salaries to make any difference, spending cannot be cut 50% as would be necessary to slow down this behemoth and the sale of Greek 'assets' like state-owned corporations will do nothing as potential buyers will NOT put up with the featherbedding and Soviet-style governance from the party in power.

Apart from any decent economic outcome being judged as other than abject failure, there is nothing but posturing and conjecture in this analysis mix.

And not only that the fact that Germany ain't gonna pay for the world war it's clearly there. As infact if someone with "balls" from Greece would try to demand it and force them to pay it there would be a huge fuss over it and definetly they would be kicked out.

However, i think it's better for Greece to be out of Europe in a certain way. Greece on itself makes pretty much a lot of Money with the Turism etc they would survive better as a Standalone country.

I readed somewhere Greece said that if they get kicked out of Europe the would demand to remove the symbol from the Euros that belongs to Greece and so the Euros will need to be printed again being it quite problematic. Altought i don't belive even if Greece demands that, that the whole Europe would accept it.

IT's a difficult situation we're in.. everyone want's the best for Greece and i srly hope there can be a solution wich everyone would be happy. But we need to get our facts clear.

Remember that the U.K cannot leave the Europe in the case they would Germany etc will need to pay billions and billions of money for the world of war.

IT's a pretty delicate subject.


There is no point discussing this...NOBODY in Greece has the Balls or love this country enough to put his foot down and demand things they are all traitors and masons...And also i think that one of the requirements for us to join E.U was that we would never ask for those money...Also about what you said that the debt keeps raising...Our debt was like 1/3 before the crisis.Russians and Chinese where giving us a loan with 1/3 the usance that International Monetary Fund asked for...So why didn't they take that loan instead??I 'll tell you why...A well ogranised crime to destroy Greece as a country cause they cannot destroy us as a nation


I don't know that much about Greece really i just know what i know, and what i know is that this debt it's too big to resolve. :no:

I'd love to know what Greece politics are thinking... and yeah that's why i said u won't have ur money back.. cause u literally "Joined" Europe so the terms have been clear.

Do you realize if u instead of Joining Europe had asked for the money and got it back, u woulnd't have this debt ?? And probably could have been able to Join Europe . That's just a Theory on my mind the extens of this debt it's just too huge..
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:24 pm

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Judjing from the average wage which trust me wouldn't overcome 500 euro...Yeah they get well paid ...But that's not the point...the point is that i don't think there is anything we can do...I already told you how i see this ending...

It's quite terrific to be able to gas your own patriots who try to make the situation better. Lol, protecting the ones who brought you to this mess and will bring to even more catastrophe for 500 euros a month just isn't worth it.
One thing that I'm going to laugh my ass off is if the you elect the same ones you were electing all those years or the communists.
My mother working as a maid and she get 300 euros with 4 hour per day even wekends... If it was 500 i would have party in my home every day...

well if she was working full hours she would take double so my average wage is good (i am not implying that this is a good wage)
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:24 pm

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Judjing from the average wage which trust me wouldn't overcome 500 euro...Yeah they get well paid ...But that's not the point...the point is that i don't think there is anything we can do...I already told you how i see this ending...

It's quite terrific to be able to gas your own patriots who try to make the situation better. Lol, protecting the ones who brought you to this mess and will bring to even more catastrophe for 500 euros a month just isn't worth it.
One thing that I'm going to laugh my ass off is if the you elect the same ones you were electing all those years or the communists.
My mother working as a maid and she get 300 euros with 4 hour per day even wekends... If it was 500 i would have party in my home every day...


Wait... 4 hour per day? And she gets 300 euros? that's pretty much normal.. i get around 1.5k a month working 8 hours every day... In the contract stays i should get around 2k but with taxes and shit it goes down to 1,5k... i need to pay the state and shit..


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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:25 pm

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Lethasson wrote:
nikos150 wrote:
Judjing from the average wage which trust me wouldn't overcome 500 euro...Yeah they get well paid ...But that's not the point...the point is that i don't think there is anything we can do...I already told you how i see this ending...

It's quite terrific to be able to gas your own patriots who try to make the situation better. Lol, protecting the ones who brought you to this mess and will bring to even more catastrophe for 500 euros a month just isn't worth it.
One thing that I'm going to laugh my ass off is if the you elect the same ones you were electing all those years or the communists.
My mother working as a maid and she get 300 euros with 4 hour per day even wekends... If it was 500 i would have party in my home every day...
that's exactly what they want...they want us to work for humiliating salaries like slaves!
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:25 pm

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nikos150 wrote:
XxIAllenIxX wrote:
Ror0noaZoRo wrote:
we could get out of the crisis if we wanted too

we could demand our money from germany for what they did 1940
we have resources of gas that amerika doesnt let us use

the crisis is fixes to make us sell greece part by part ...


the thing is we need someone with balls to lead us..

What troubles me is that there is NO solution to this Greek debt.

The debt is too high, Greece cannot cut away sufficient costs in terms of salaries to make any difference, spending cannot be cut 50% as would be necessary to slow down this behemoth and the sale of Greek 'assets' like state-owned corporations will do nothing as potential buyers will NOT put up with the featherbedding and Soviet-style governance from the party in power.

Apart from any decent economic outcome being judged as other than abject failure, there is nothing but posturing and conjecture in this analysis mix.

And not only that the fact that Germany ain't gonna pay for the world war it's clearly there. As infact if someone with "balls" from Greece would try to demand it and force them to pay it there would be a huge fuss over it and definetly they would be kicked out.

However, i think it's better for Greece to be out of Europe in a certain way. Greece on itself makes pretty much a lot of Money with the Turism etc they would survive better as a Standalone country.

I readed somewhere Greece said that if they get kicked out of Europe the would demand to remove the symbol from the Euros that belongs to Greece and so the Euros will need to be printed again being it quite problematic. Altought i don't belive even if Greece demands that, that the whole Europe would accept it.

IT's a difficult situation we're in.. everyone want's the best for Greece and i srly hope there can be a solution wich everyone would be happy. But we need to get our facts clear.

Remember that the U.K cannot leave the Europe in the case they would Germany etc will need to pay billions and billions of money for the world of war.

IT's a pretty delicate subject.


There is no point discussing this...NOBODY in Greece has the Balls or love this country enough to put his foot down and demand things they are all traitors and masons...And also i think that one of the requirements for us to join E.U was that we would never ask for those money...Also about what you said that the debt keeps raising...Our debt was like 1/3 before the crisis.Russians and Chinese where giving us a loan with 1/3 the usance that International Monetary Fund asked for...So why didn't they take that loan instead??I 'll tell you why...A well ogranised crime to destroy Greece as a country cause they cannot destroy us as a nation


I don't know that much about Greece really i just know what i know, and what i know is that this debt it's too big to resolve. :no:

I'd love to know what Greece politics are thinking... and yeah that's why i said u won't have ur money back.. cause u literally "Joined" Europe so the terms have been clear.

Do you realize if u instead of Joining Europe had asked for the money and got it back, u woulnd't have this debt ?? And probably could have been able to Join Europe . That's just a Theory on my mind the extens of this debt it's just too huge..

NO!And you know why?Because in the end they were gonna steal those money and destroy greece anyway... (sorry if i am spamming btw)
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:26 pm

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Lethasson wrote:
nikos150 wrote:
Judjing from the average wage which trust me wouldn't overcome 500 euro...Yeah they get well paid ...But that's not the point...the point is that i don't think there is anything we can do...I already told you how i see this ending...

It's quite terrific to be able to gas your own patriots who try to make the situation better. Lol, protecting the ones who brought you to this mess and will bring to even more catastrophe for 500 euros a month just isn't worth it.
One thing that I'm going to laugh my ass off is if the you elect the same ones you were electing all those years or the communists.
My mother working as a maid and she get 300 euros with 4 hour per day even wekends... If it was 500 i would have party in my home every day...


Wait... 4 hour per day? And she gets 300 euros? that's pretty much normal.. i get around 1.5k a month working 8 hours every day... In the contract stays i should get around 2k but with taxes and shit it goes down to 2k... i need to pay the state and shit..

c'mmon he means 300 euros per month for 4 hours per day....
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:27 pm

A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:27 pm

nikos150 wrote:
XxIAllenIxX wrote:
OwnedDaLekos wrote:
Lethasson wrote:
nikos150 wrote:
Judjing from the average wage which trust me wouldn't overcome 500 euro...Yeah they get well paid ...But that's not the point...the point is that i don't think there is anything we can do...I already told you how i see this ending...

It's quite terrific to be able to gas your own patriots who try to make the situation better. Lol, protecting the ones who brought you to this mess and will bring to even more catastrophe for 500 euros a month just isn't worth it.
One thing that I'm going to laugh my ass off is if the you elect the same ones you were electing all those years or the communists.
My mother working as a maid and she get 300 euros with 4 hour per day even wekends... If it was 500 i would have party in my home every day...


Wait... 4 hour per day? And she gets 300 euros? that's pretty much normal.. i get around 1.5k a month working 8 hours every day... In the contract stays i should get around 2k but with taxes and shit it goes down to 1,5k... i need to pay the state and shit..

c'mmon he means 300 euros per month for 4 hours per day....

Oh shit per month i din't understood him properly. Sorry for that. Yeah it's pretty low even for 4hours
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:30 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..

many greek people will leave for other countries and they will face the same racism tha albanian people faced here in Greece
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:31 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..

I am studying touristics and i don't even consider staying in Greece when i finish my studies....


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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:32 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..

many greek people will leave for other countries and they will face the same racism tha albanian people faced here in Greece

Well , when i ll go to another country , i ll be sure not to join gangs and terrify or hit people just because they gazed at me...Not a racist...just saying....


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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:32 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..

many greek people will leave for other countries and they will face the same racism tha albanian people faced here in Greece

All bad thinks u do at the end come back for you. That's something u always have to remind..

well, Spain is a nice country! :D You can come here and see us fall down too. cause we won't last long the way we're goin either ; )
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:34 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..
It's the crycis here... When we didn't had crycis my mother was working with 1.3k 6 hours per day for a month , without weekends. This was GREECE , but now is all f*cked...
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:34 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..

many greek people will leave for other countries and they will face the same racism tha albanian people faced here in Greece

Well , when i ll go to another country , i ll be sure not to join gangs and terrifying or hitting people just because they gazed at me...Not a racist...just saying....

the people who came to Greece from other countries with their families didnt have any intention to do harm to us(with exceptions)
but they were forced to make gangs in order to survive..
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:35 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..
It's the crycis here... When we didn't had crycis my mother was working with 1.3k 6 hours per day for a month , without weekends. This was GREECE , but now is all f*cked...

for fuck sake why did the salaries go down? the pension to old pple was rather minimized as well wasen't it
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:36 pm

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It's the crycis here... When we didn't had crycis my mother was working with 1.3k 6 hours per day for a month , without weekends. This was GREECE , but now is all f*cked...

Did I forgot to mention they take 1k every week ? But forget it, where I live is a completely different world, you guys would call it a fairy world.
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:37 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..
It's the crycis here... When we didn't had crycis my mother was working with 1.3k 6 hours per day for a month , without weekends. This was GREECE , but now is all f*cked...

for fuck sake why did the salaries go down? the pension to old pple was rather minimized as well wasen't it
they minimized the people salaries but politicians still get 5k+ per month...
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:37 pm

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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..

many greek people will leave for other countries and they will face the same racism tha albanian people faced here in Greece

Well , when i ll go to another country , i ll be sure not to join gangs and terrifying or hitting people just because they gazed at me...Not a racist...just saying....

the people who came to Greece from other countries with their families didnt have any intention to do harm to us(with exceptions)
but they were forced to make gangs in order to survive..

I respectfully disagree , not about the fact that they didn't have the intention , but about what you said that they were forced to join gangs...NO!They didn't have...We don't act bad towards Armenians or Georgians in my hood, they are the ones who steal and bully people....
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:38 pm

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nikos150 wrote:
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A maid, where I live, working 4 h a day even the weekends, is taking about 1000 euros. People will leave Greece in the end..

many greek people will leave for other countries and they will face the same racism tha albanian people faced here in Greece

Well , when i ll go to another country , i ll be sure not to join gangs and terrifying or hitting people just because they gazed at me...Not a racist...just saying....

the people who came to Greece from other countries with their families didnt have any intention to do harm to us(with exceptions)
but they were forced to make gangs in order to survive..

I respectfully disagree , not about the fact that they didn't have the intention , but about what you said that they were forced to join gangs...NO!They didn't have...We don't act bad towards Armenians or Georgians in my hood, they are the ones who steal and bully people....
ye ye greek people never steal...ok
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:39 pm

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It's the crycis here... When we didn't had crycis my mother was working with 1.3k 6 hours per day for a month , without weekends. This was GREECE , but now is all f*cked...

Did I forgot to mention they take 1k every week ? But forget it, where I live is a completely different world, you guys would call it a fairy world.

When i was working as a waitor (before crysis) i was getting paid 600 euro per month without medical insurance or anything like that...so i don't think that it was better before. I really love my country but i just can't see any future here...West Europe Here i come!
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:41 pm

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ye ye greek people never steal...ok

I didn't say that, but you must be living in a really good neighbourhood if you think that foreign people here are the victims...You should come in mine and see what i am talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:43 pm

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ye ye greek people never steal...ok

I didn't say that, but you must be living in a really good neighbourhood if you think that foreign people here are the victims...You should come in mine and see what i am talking about.

I understand ur point i personally don't like Marocans pple. Because they come and steal. most of the time they're the ones stealing from our country, or Irak they come here and make us change our way of living just so they can adapt to OUR COUNTRY i mean.. go to ur country and live by your rules..

I know now all MArocans might be like that.. but i fairly dislike every single one of them. As far as i've know them until now.
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:43 pm

With all this commotion, I finally got to post my 420th post :D
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PostSubject: Re: as seen on the internet "Greece"   Wed May 30, 2012 5:46 pm

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I understand ur point i personally don't like Marocans pple. Because they come and steal. most of the time they're the ones stealing from our country, or Irak they come here and make us change our way of living just so they can adapt to OUR COUNTRY i mean.. go to ur country and live by your rules..

I know now all MArocans might be like that.. but i fairly dislike every single one of them. As far as i've know them until now.

Yeah, and i am not racist...i am not like "oh you are albanian, i hate you, i don't wanna come near you" and i had friends albanians that they were working really hard and they were good people...I am just saying that most of the ruin the neighbourhoods with their "gangs" ....They can hit you just for gazing at them....and BRAVO Lethasson xD
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Albanians are very hard working people. They withstand to do 3-4 jobs at the same time xD We even have some here too.
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