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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Tue May 07, 2013 11:54 pm

Letha I wanted to start a topic just about my thoughts in general. Its fine that u wna delete and re make your accounts a million times for attention then post them on a facebook page with 5 mill likes in order to gain fame quick but yano w.e post your shitty face again I dare you.

Nikos I consider pro's as people who enter contests such as JPN expo/Akross and averagely come with a respectable placement.

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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 1:06 am

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Letha I wanted to start a topic just about my thoughts in general. Its fine that u wna delete and re make your accounts a million times for attention then post them on a facebook page with 5 mill likes in order to gain fame quick but yano w.e post your shitty face again I dare you.

Nikos I consider pro's as people who enter contests such as JPN expo/Akross and averagely come with a respectable placement.


yes but that just you and a few of you (at least in youtube community and mainly from editors) but the fans and most new editors don't, and your problem is not about what you consider pro but about what others consider pro because you said you don't like how the others criticise based on the pros

and peter exactly my thought about amv.org , it can really help you but it's so much writing that i couldn't follow
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 10:43 am

about the forum stuff, that's just an illusion. i've experienced that flood of texts to read lots of times in the past. You just have to choose what you're gonna read (there's no need to read them all...) and after 1-2 weeks you'll see that you'll only be following the latest topics. They only problem you will face is "when and from where" you have to start. Imagine yourself as a new user here in our forum... wouldn't you be troubled about what you have to read?all those topics all those spams... Personally i'd go for General Discussion (which seems most active) and then for Help Center because it's how i'll get help..

Same goes for .org (i think)
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 11:31 am

Fak dat ENP da best

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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 5:23 pm

I like how all of you were talking about amvs in general and now you are like fpfpufuf loosecontrol and pewpewpew bakanimations kikikikiki da-boooooom. Yeah, whatever we are all a bunch of blood sucking succubuses. That's how everything works but we are * cough* DIFFERENT. Look at their subs, wow so many views, I wonder if we can be as FAMOUS as then, herp derp. Besides that, let's talk about their videos... OMG SO FAMOUS!
YOU ARE ALL FUCKING STUPID!
Do you realise what you are doing? Do you know what internet fame is? IT'S NOTHING. BIG FUCKING ZERO.

As you are new to amvs you have this mindset. I like anime, I like music, I like amvs, I LOVE making them. Simple as that. Megaman logic - all you have to do is jump and shoot. Who cares about the creator, is it capcom, namcop, crapcum? Whatever. But as you realise the creator is a big fucking thing to not give a fuck about, you are like. Oh yeah this, *insert name* guy is good, imma sub him. Then time passes by and you are like, woah he is famous now, I'm so gonna make false accusations like the human paraside I am even though I don't even know this guy and the way he acts. Dude, chill out. He is just making vidz for fun. He's always been like that, he didn't change. Your image of him changed. Doesn't matter if he is the devil or the sweetest person alive, SOMEONE HAS TO HATE SOMEONE HAS TO BE LIKE ohohohohoho the more the subs, the greedier he is. So yeah let's all copy him cause we are THAT kind of parasites.
Hold on, stop! Weren't you a fan of amvs? What about that guy, he likes making them, where's the problem? Ohhh so that's why? It's not only about amvs now. It's about this guy, this guy. THAT GUY DGFDHFDGDHG I HATE WHEN HE GETS SO MANY SUBS FASTER THAN I'LL EVER GET. BUT MY VIDEOS ARE SOOO MUCH BETTER...
FUCK YOU EVERYONE! This is one of the many reasons I have lost faith in this fake word filled with fake people. You all make me believe your existence doesn't count. I plug off the laptop, you are not there. That's what internet fame really is. I turn off the monitor, you do not exist to me.
And all we wanted was to make what we love to do. You know what, I USED to LOVE doing that, not because I don't like amvs anymore for what they are; animated music videos but I hate them for WHAT THEY REPRESENT... THIS.
And now you are like shut up, you are my slave, make more videos, bitch. How dare you act that way, beeing all lazy and stuff. You are giving us a bad image. We gave you one last chance and you did NoTHING? What do you even do... Your life is not important, go pee on an electric fench as if I care, just make some goddamn videos.



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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 5:33 pm

That's how the world goes,not only the internet.Mankind will always be like that on everything,deal with it and realize that some people have brains and this is a common secret.If you think that you don't get corrupt by fame then you are naive.Nobody told you to make amvs,if you don't want to or don't feel to then don't,but don't make empty promises with petty excuses.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 5:49 pm

having read what louftos posted i can say that even when i'm so smart (you can call me a genius) i didn't get a thing... who are the ones that you're accusing through your comment? you write all this much and the bigger your post the bigger the chaos... if it is just me that i can't connect all those things you wrote then okay i'll go back in my corner but if not... make things clearier!
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 5:52 pm

You'll understand when the time comes,no need for forced explanations,your mind will root out the answer on it's own when it's ready.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 5:54 pm

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That's how the world goes,not only the internet.Mankind will always be like that on everything,deal with it and realize that some people have brains and this is a common secret.If you think that you don't get corrupt by fame then you are naive.Nobody told you to make amvs,if you don't want to or don't feel to then don't,but don't make empty promises with petty excuses.

I didn't say you won't get corrupted cause of fame. I said, this negativity torwards everything makes us rot. It happens to even the greatest of us. I just don't want to see us talking like old people like * kids these days*
Yep I'll say it clearly, I don't want N***S to talk about l**********l all the time, MrP******s talk about how fame works. I want to make amvs for myself, for the producton, for you. I want to enjoy it, not brag about it.
So basicaly you are saying if you don't like it why don't you just quit and stfu.
Simple, I hate quitters and guys with tiny weenies.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 6:07 pm

I'm pretty sure i didn't recommend quitting,you can just keep doing what you're doing now and edit when you feel like editing.But also when you take part in activities you take responsibility and actually edit what you said you'd edit.

That's awfully generic,people will talk about what they want to talk about,no matter the consequences or what you want.No matter how rotten the conversation is,how much it degrades us as people,because above all we are humans with specific code of interactivity with people and scumlike instincts.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 6:08 pm

Now i get it! Thanks for explanation. I can say that yeah, you're right but we can't be all that careless :/ caring about nothing... I mean, we gotta talk about something right? and since this period of the year is all about exams (school/uni etc.) we can't work on amvs, and talking about animes all the time gets boring in the end...

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I think none of us makes amvs solely to get subs... We all want that but it's noone's first priority... (correct me if i'm wrong).

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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 6:23 pm

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I'm pretty sure i didn't recommend quitting,you can just keep doing what you're doing now and edit when you feel like editing.But also when you take part in activities you take responsibility and actually edit what you said you'd edit.

That's awfully generic,people will talk about what they want to talk about,no matter the consequences or what you want.No matter how rotten the conversation is,how much it degrades us as people,because above all we are humans with specific code of interactivity with people and scumlike instincts.

Tell me something. I'm at the point when everyone thinks I'm a joke. I'm trying to be productive, but something called subconscious prevents it from happening. Yo when will this loser of a leader will make videos? Or when a video is made there'll be like oh cool, now you'll be like dead or something for the next couple of years? And all of you making those "jokes".
What empty promises, is there anything to gain for this?
You are not like it's ok stuff happens, it was just an unfortunate moment. You are like pfff again? For the love of God. Louftos is acting like "himself" again. All this gives zero motivation. You know what motivation is? How can I make something when all these demotivate me?
This works with fans, too in general. Fanbase is confused, fanbase is like adfada EGORAPTOR IS A JOKE WHEN YOU'LL UPLOAD A GOOD VIDEO.
Tell me, how you expect me to be happy about making videos when my own team cuts my dick off, breaks my courage, pfffff
TELL ME???
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 6:43 pm

i was ignored again, thanks! if you want to take it in a personal level go on skype... otherwise reply to everyone's posts...

As for you louftos, you're not a joke. You just seem/are (you choose which one) inactive in terms of editing(first) and leader-shipping(second).

If you were active in terms of editing you'd be in the same place mike was during those contests he participated.. but in leader-shipping you both are a hell of a lot INactive...
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 7:04 pm

I only joined the team recently so I don't know about everything. but I know for a fact that I don't consider louftos as a joke, you went inactive for a while, well yea you've got a life, and i'm not gonna judge you for that. If someone is wondering why I really want a new vid from louftos, it's because I want to go to my friends and be like "Hey take a look at this! this guy is the leader of my team. See how awesome he is!" (No pampouks. please don't put that ass licking emoticon)
So yea, no one is considered a joke here.
As for the talking about other editors, I guess i'll have to agree with louftos on this you guys. at the end these people don't really give a shit about what you say. they've got subs? well okay.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 7:05 pm

Sorry Pampouks,i'm not trying to ignore you but i really don't want to explain to you anything.What you said was right give or take.This is not personal,if anyone wants to join the conversation please do.

You got yourself in this point,you put yourself in this situation,don't you DARE accuse your team.Don't you dare.If you ask for a chance,we'll give it to you.Noone will deny you a mep part or turn your collab invitation down for thinking you as a joke,hell why don't you make a 1 min beta for a start?But noone is going to seek out to help the irresponsible emo kid who cries in a corner about his parents not giving enough attention to him.You build your own status,noone will come to help you,if you like amvs keep doing it,if you don't do whatever the hell you might want but don't expect us to take the initiative.How can we have faith in you when you don't have faith in yourself?
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 7:28 pm

i used to respect the way you were thinking about editting and editting community louftos but not anymore....So you are saying that when i am expressing how much i hate all those unskilled famous editors in youtube because they destroyed this community , it's because i am jealous of their subs??Thank you , that's very good of you....

i agree with most of the things pampouks wrote....

and yes Louftos , when you haven't uploaded anything for so long and everytime an "obstacle" occurs, yes , we cannot trust you or believe you anymore, you created that , not us....

anyway, i am tired of all these conversations about editting and bla bla bla...i decided that what i have to do is just do my editting , enjoy it and ignore the rest, that's the only way but in difference of what you think, i wish i had just 10 subs but with people that really know what editting and amv is and actually i will try to make this happen as soon as i am back to Greece
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 8:02 pm

That's the kind of reaction I was expecting from all of you.
Especially you, Peter. You really gave me the cold shoulder, there. I knew I could depend on you.
Thanks, I really appreciate all this negativity! This sure will make me edit 2 videos a week.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 8:18 pm

Off topic.
This is a really interesting vid about motivation.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 8:24 pm

I believed in you once,and i'm not an endless busket of deepshit neither am i a mother who will never give up on her son.Man up and earn your respect.I would prefer if you could call this a generous slap to the face rather than cold shoulder,you probably don't understand what cold shoulder is in this situation.

Again,noone is asking to do anything,do whatever you want,AE guide that is,beta that is,full amv that is,on your own pace.You don't have motivation to do anything?Fine don't do anything,there are lot editing wise inactive members.But if you participate in a studio activity,edit your damn mep part.I'm sorry but what would you like me to say?No louftos-chan i believe in you and you're the best editor and it's raining foo fighters nya nya?No seriously what would you want the members of this production to tell to you so you can cheer up and have confidence again?
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 8:42 pm

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I believed in you once,and i'm not an endless busket of deepshit neither am i a mother who will never give up on her son.Man up and earn your respect.I would prefer if you could call this a generous slap to the face rather than cold shoulder,you probably don't understand what cold shoulder is in this situation.

Again,noone is asking to do anything,do whatever you want,AE guide that is,beta that is,full amv that is,on your own pace.You don't have motivation to do anything?Fine don't do anything,there are lot editing wise inactive members.But if you participate in a studio activity,edit your damn mep part.I'm sorry but what would you like me to say?No louftos-chan i believe in you and you're the best editor and it's raining foo fighters nya nya?No seriously what would you want the members of this production to tell to you so you can cheer up and have confidence again?

Nothing. Nothing at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 9:06 pm

Then if nothing needs to be said,stop having the long face and set your mindset straight.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 9:30 pm

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Then if nothing needs to be said,stop having the long face and set your mindset straight.

That's more than nothing, so no. Seriously, can't you just argue with out being a huge dick. Just saying, nothing wrong with it. Cheer up, have fun. Take a chill pill and enjoy life, bro. Don't need to go all sentimental on me :badash:
I wasn't being sarcastic btw thanks for the negative feetback. If internet is not a big meanie, then there is something wrong with this world.
I don't know how this works but too much positing things can ruin the fun so thanks for balancing that out.
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 9:47 pm

Because i'm blunt and i don't hide behind the smilies and niceties you all "despise" and are "so sick of" i get to be called a dick every time.Also i'm not the internet,i'm just one person,the internet wouldn't give a fuck "another whinner,my life's so much better,let's go watch some machinima".

I don't really mind,since when do you need permission to do that?
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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 10:03 pm

sgtpeterarbit wrote:

I don't really mind,since when do you need permission to do that?

It's called self advertisement asdfadsf


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PostSubject: Re: Editing/Community Discussion   Wed May 08, 2013 10:39 pm

post them in art louftos, im not much of a skype user atm.
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